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Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:00:02

Have you ever gone to a hypnotist show? Maybe, that we've seen a clip. It usually involves someone clucking like a chicken or barking like a dog, or at least that's what it was when I went to a show when I was in college. I've heard enough fake references to hypnotherapy and its benefits that I knew is an entirely different ballgame than the hypnotist show that I went to in college. I definitely wanted to learn more about it and better understand it. I'd heard about somebody I knew once using it for some purposes, and it really made a difference with them. So, to kick off 2024, we have a fabulous guest who's a life coach who specializes in hypnotherapy and neurolinguistic programming, which is often referred to as NLP. So, today, we get to learn about some new tools and ways of thinking that may deepen your perspective as we enter 2024. She even gives us a great exercise for our grit wit that I think you'll find is a very valuable tool. You want to stick around to the very end so you get the most out of that. To learn a little bit more about hypnotherapy and broadening our mind in 2024 for new ways of looking at how we can live our life with a little more ease.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:01:17

Welcome to The Grit Show, where our focus is growth on purpose. I'm your host, Shawna Rodrigues, and I'm honored to be part of this community as we journey together with our grit intact to learn more about how to thrive and how to get the most out of life. It means a lot that you are here today. As you listen, I encourage you to think of who may appreciate the tidbits of knowledge we are sharing, and to take a moment to pass this along to them. Everyone appreciates a friend that thinks of them, and these conversations are meant to be shared and to spark even more connections.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:01:54

Kenzie Groh is a passionate and transformational women's life and mindset coach who empowers women to break free from limiting beliefs and step into their full potential. I'm excited for the conversation we get to have with her today. Thank you so much for being with us Kenzie.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:02:08

Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:02:11

Yes. So, what got you into doing your work as a life coach?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:02:15

Oh my gosh. Can I dive into my story a little bit?

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:02:18

Yes. Exactly. That's what we want. We love stories here.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:02:21

So, I, you know, I graduated college. And when I graduated college, I moved across the country from Wisconsin to California, and I got my 1st corporate job. And I always thought, like, I'm going to be, like, this big bad CEO at the head of this huge company, and that was always my dream, kind of climb that corporate ladder. And so, I got my 1st corporate job and, honestly, I was really just miserable. I really didn't like it. The hours were crazy. I was expected to drop everything and, you know, pick up a project if they needed it. And I was just so burned out and I really lost myself in the job.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:03:00

I, you know, that became my identity. And so, I always tell people, I remember, like, sitting in the break room one day and I'm just looking down at this pathetic salad that I made thinking I was being healthy. And I had this thought, this cannot be as good as it gets. This isn't what life is supposed to be. And so, I knew something needed to change and so what I started doing is really focusing on my own health. I started going to the gym again. I started creating boundaries around work. I started eating healthier. And while I was still in corporate, I became a health coach and a personal trainer and really fell in love with helping people and helping people improve their life. And I was still working corporate and doing this on the side. And while I was taking on personal training clients, I started to realize that something was really missing. That, you know, people weren't changing their habits. They weren't showing up for themselves. They weren't confident. You know, they weren't really committing to changing their life. It was kind of superficial work. And so, I didn't know what that was going to be, but I just knew something was missing.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:04:07

And I ended up going to this conference, and there was a guy there teaching NLP techniques, which is neurolinguistic programming. I had never heard of it, but a lot of my friends were talking about it. And then one of my friends at the conference actually knew someone who certified people in NLP. And so, I started researching it and jumped on a call with her and learned about it, and I was like, this is it. This is what my clients are missing. Right? I've been through 3 different certifications. It took me about 3 to 4 years to finish all of them, but I got certified in NLP, hypnotherapy, breath work, Reiki. And from there, became a life coach, transitioned into a life coach, still working corporate, weaving it all in, doing all the things like we talked about, just doing all the things all the time. And I had told my husband, I was like, I know I want to do this full time, but, you know, I'm getting this cushy paycheck. Right? Like, it's really hard to leave. And so, this kept staying. And one day, I got called into my manager's office and I got laid off. And it was just totally out of the blue. Didn't see it coming. And, of course, I, what I call a pity party, I threw myself a pity party for a little while. You know, I felt the feels, felt sorry for myself and I just didn't know what I was going to do. I felt like, you know, I've always known corporate, so maybe I should just keep doing that. And my husband is the sweetest human ever. He was like, no. You're going to do your business full time. Like, you've been wanting to do it, just do it.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:05:37

And so, I just, I've been doing my business full time ever since. And now looking back, I can see how all these pieces fell together and it happened the exact way it needed to. But, of course, when you're in it, you're like, oh, this suck. This is really hard, so I'm really glad I went through all of that because now it's like built this trust in me where I'm like, I can trust the process because I know everything's going to come together in the end.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:06:08

That's amazing. And isn't it interesting how the universe will just be like, uh-uh, uh-uh. You need to, like, go all in. So here, let me take that net right out from under you.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:06:16

Yep. It was like, oh, you don't want to get near the edge of the clip? Loop, I'm going to push you over the edge, like and that was it. And it's what I needed. And, of course, in the moment, you're like, oh, you know, I'd hate this. But now I'm, like, I'm so glad I got that push off the ledge.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:06:32

Yes. And so wonderful that you had a supportive partner that was able to help you recognize that this is the risk you need to take because it's even hard. When I switched over to what led to now me having my podcast network, when I was having that shift, I needed to leave my job because some things had happened there. And when I made that decision, I was like, oh, no. I need to go find, you know, the next 9 to 5. And even when I did that, I people like, oh, we want you to consult with us. We want you to consult. I'm like, well, just until I find that next 9 to 5. Yeah. Like, you know, like, just for a little while. Like, I'm not and they're really doing this. I still want the security. I still want the security. And it's so funny, like, how much it takes to finally be, like, no, that I am meant for other things. Like, this is where I need to be and to, like, to go there and how much our mind keeps pulling back because we've all been trained and taught that that equals security and not equals happiness and not equals what you're supposed to have when we know better because our experience has shown us, no, this is where you need to be and this is what you need to go after, but it's just so much easier like this narrative is easier.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:07:34

Yeah. This is comfortable. I don't want to be uncomfortable.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:07:38

But yeah. Exactly. We've been laid off, like, how secure is it really? How secure is that path really?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:07:44

Right. I mean, not knocking corporate, like, if you love it, you love it. But I'm always like, you only get so much of, you know, a pay raise whereas, like, I'm like, I own my own company. If I want to make 10,000 more dollars, I know what I need to do to go do that, you know? And so, you have more control over what your schedule looks like, what the money looks like. Even the challenge of it, I really, really love. And now I laugh too because, like I told you, I always thought I wanted to be the CEO and climb this ladder. And I'm like, I am the CEO. I'm the CEO of my own business. It's just not the societal norm of climbing the corporate ladder.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:08:19

Yes. And there's this piece too of like you're really trading time for money. Even when you're salaried it's almost a joke that every salaried position I have, it was like they owned me. And that when I went on vacation, I still had to have a phone with me to still approve these requests and say yes to these things. So, I remember being at a vineyard in Northern California, and the person I was with them, they went to the bathroom. I'm, like, signing requests for people and doing stuff. I'm like, what is this? Why is this my life? I finally made it. I'm finally making all this money, and this is what this is? Like, I can't even take a trip where I'm supposed to be on vacation, supposed to be away and take this little bit of time and all of those jobs that were salary, like, that just meant that they owned you. It felt like it never felt like you could have, this is my time here and this is my time not here.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:09:03

We're on the same page on that.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:09:04

So, let's talk more because I think that us getting both of us getting to our place of having our own businesses has been a matter of us getting unstuck and us getting our mindset to a different place, which is what you now specialize in.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:09:17

Yes. Yes. It started with my own journey. It was me questioning myself and questioning my abilities. And so, once I learned NLP and how we can control our own thoughts and change our own mind, that has with what has helped me create my own business. And now what I do with my clients, helping them stop feeling stuck in their own life because we could get so overwhelmed by the resources. A lot of times we just think, well, this is just who I am. This is my story and this is just the way it is.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:09:48

And I want to show people that you have a choice, and you get to control the narrative and the story that you create in your life. And so, as soon as you decide to change the story and stop telling people, well, I'm the person that has the worst luck, or I'm the person that can't do that because x, y, z or, you know, I'm the person that can never have money because my family didn't have money or, you know, as soon as you stop making that your story and you choose to get unstuck, that's when the magic starts to happen because we get to decide what our life is going to look like.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:10:23

So, neurolinguistic program is something we haven't really discussed on this podcast. So, NLP really is about the words we're using and what we're telling ourselves constantly. Is that what I'm hearing from you?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:10:34

Yes. So, I call it your programming or I call it your map of the world, and so we all have a different map of the world, and typically from 0 to 7 years old is when that map is created. And it's created by the people you're surrounded by, what you watch on TV, what you see in society, what your teachers tell you, the interactions that you see. From 0 to 7, you take in all this information and your brain starts to create your programming, and it starts to say, okay, this is who I am. This is what I believe. These are the thoughts that I have. So, your programming is really probably what your parents or your caretakers, the people you were around the most, gave to you, and so that is the language you use as well. And I always tell people, so, like, you and I, we have very different maps of the world because we have different parents. We grew up in different places. We we're having a different education, and so our maps are very different. And we could be in the exact same situation, but think about it very differently because our programming is different. And so, we have this map of the world and that's when we think this is just who I am. But with neurolinguistic programming and hypnotherapy, we get to start to change that programming and change the language that we use.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:11:47

Oh, that's awesome. So even though that's what's there, we had no control over it. We were 0 to 7. We were just like a sponge soaking in what was being given to us. But at this point in our lives, we're able to kind of evaluate what's there and what we want to take in or put out, and there's different tools that we can use for that such as hypnotherapy that can help us to evaluate. Well, not evaluate. Hypnotherapy, is that evaluating or is that more just changing?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:12:10

It would be probably; it won't be more so changing as where the hypnotherapy comes in. NLP, we can use a lot of the different, like, coaching tools to start to say, what is your programming? What do you believe? What do you not want to believe anymore? And then we can use hypnotherapy to start to change that programming.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:12:26

Yes. Do you find that people are finding in transitions is when they start to discover this or when they feel really stuck is when they start to discover that there's something about what's in their thoughts that this is not working for them anymore?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:12:39

Yeah. I would say most people, they've been stuck for a while and they're thinking, you know, I've tried to do it on my own. I've researched it. I'm overwhelmed. Like, this is just not working. And typically for people, they're kind of at a breaking point of, like, I just can't keep living this way. I need help from someone to help me transition to what I want to the life that I want to live.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:13:03

Yeah. That's awesome. And so, that's when they're ready to be unstuck and to move on to where they want to actually be, and that's when you get to come into play. So, they have an idea that they want to change, but exactly what that is, is probably what they need to kind of figure out a little bit.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:13:17

Yes. And typically, people aren't coming to me and saying, like, I'm stuck. I need hypnotherapy. I'm stuck, I need NLP. Right? But they are saying, like, I'm stuck and nothing I have done has worked. And I love talk therapy. I think talk therapy is great, but sometimes just talking about things doesn't help us change. And so, when we can apply talk therapy and NLP and hypnotherapy, that's when we really get to do that programming work and change, like, on a subconscious level.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:13:47

They're trying, yes, to get to that deeper level and peel back some of those things. So, do you have some examples of some of the stuff you've worked on with folks?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:13:55

Oh, yes. So many different things. I have a client right now who her and her daughter had a falling out. Her adult daughter, they had a falling out and they don't talk anymore. She was really hung up on the fact, like, her life stopped because she could not move forward from the pain of it, the beliefs that she had around it. And so, her and I have worked really hard to help her confidence, help her set boundaries in her life and also to start to change those beliefs because a lot of the beliefs she was pushing on to her daughter that had caused the issues were given to her when she was a kid, and that's why her and her daughter were having conflict because the daughter didn't agree with it. Right? And so, the mom is acting kind of in a wounded what I call, like, your wounded child. Right? And so, we were able to change a lot of her programming so that she could show up differently for her daughter and use different language and set boundaries.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:14:52

I have clients who simply want to get a new job. They really feel stuck in their career. They want to grow, but they have these beliefs that I could never have that job or I couldn't do that or I couldn't make that kind of money or why would they hire me, and so really changing their confidence and their beliefs around getting a different job and then also helping them with the strategy piece. What kind of jobs do we want? You know, how do we apply? Giving them tools to feel confident in the interviews. So, those are a couple, like, different, but still both feeling very stuck in their life and, like, they want it to look different.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:15:27

Yes. And when do you use tools from NLP versus using hypnotherapy? So, when does the hypnotherapy skills come in to help change?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:15:35

I usually use a little bit of both with my clients. So, NLP is typically shorter little techniques. So, if someone has a limiting belief like, I could never have that job. We usually use an NLP technique to change that belief pretty quickly. For hypnotherapy, I use it more on an identity level or that story level that I was talking about. So, if someone is really wanting to change the story that they tell, they're really wanting to show up differently on an identity level, I usually use hypnotherapy for that, because that's a little bit of a longer process, and our subconscious loves repetition. It likes to hear things over and over again so that it can really soak it in and start to say, yes. That's who I am. This is the person I want to be.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:16:20

Our subconscious doesn't know the difference between something that actually happened and something that we're saying happened, and but it didn't actually happen, and so we can tell our subconscious we can say something like, I'm a millionaire, and your subconscious goes, oh, yeah. I am. Right? And so, it doesn't know the difference. And so, the more we can repeat that to the subconscious, it starts to take it in and make that happen for you and make that belief come true. And so, with hypnotherapy, what I do is I record the hypnosis that I create for them, I send it to them, and then they get to listen to it. I usually say, like, every day, every other day, and they get to listen to it. And my clients get to the point where they don't even need to listen to it. They have it memorized. Like, they can just like, they know the words that I'm saying and they can basically repeat it to themselves.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:17:10

Oh, that's amazing. So, the NLP, is it more just like saying things to yourself repeating scripts, or what are some of the NLP techniques that are just the little techniques then?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:17:18

Yeah. So, there's something called time techniques. And so, we all have a timeline that we run. Right? We all have a past, a present, and a future. And in our past, we were given a lesson from 0 to 7, something happened to us. Let's say, a dog came running up in a kid's face, and now you're fearful of dogs for the rest of your life. A lesson was given to you as a child that dogs are scary, and so we can go back to that past timeline and say, no. Just because a dog ran up in your face, it doesn't mean that all dogs are scary. It just means that that was a scary situation. So, we really get to change the belief that they've been carrying out throughout their entire life, and that's just something that takes, like, 15 to 20 minutes.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:18:00

You're just talking through that specific situation and reframing it in the way you have it in your canon that, like, this happened, but let me look at this a different way and file it in a new place.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:18:10

Yes. Exactly. I like how you said that. File in different place. And then the NLP techniques all have scripts because it's neurolinguistic programming. There's a very specific way that the subconscious likes to be talked to, and so, the way we use those scripts allows that person to start to change their programming.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:18:30

Oh, very cool. So, it's a very specific way to walk through it, but then once you've done it, it's kind of been refiled and moved and that moved on, whereas the hypnotherapy is this deeper level work of you really seeing yourself in a new identity. So, if you've always said, like, you know, I grew up in this specific town, specific place, and I'm just never going to get very far. I'm never going to make much money. My family never made much money. Money doesn't grow on trees. That instead you have, like, this entire script, and with hypnotherapy, it's kind of getting you into different states. You're accessing your subconscious, is that kind of how it works?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:19:01

You got it. Yes. Can I walk through the hypnotherapy, how it works a little bit?

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:19:04

I'd love that.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:19:05

Cool. So, I always tell people, you know, I don't know if you had this experience, I did, but when I graduated high school, they brought in a hypnotherapist. Did they do that for you?

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:19:14

Oh, when I was in college, we went to an event that they had that our student union put on those, and there's a hypnotherapist that, like, selected people from the audience and did that thing in college. Yeah.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:19:24

Yeah. And I don't know why that's, like, a thing, but a lot of people have had that experience. So, I always tell people, like, if you did have that experience, it is not like that. That is purely for entertainment. It is to get people to laugh. Right? And so, if they're asking, you know, that hypnotherapist is asking, hey. I need a volunteer, the person who in their life would never, you know, bark like a dog to get a laugh out of people probably isn't going to raise their hand.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:19:51

But the person that is super outgoing and doesn't care what other people think, that's going to be the person that raises their hand to get up on the stage. That is a person who's willing to take in those suggestions and bark like a dog, cluck like a chicken or whatever it is that they need to do. This is not like that at all. So, really, when we are doing hypnotherapy, I'm doing all the talking. I'm not asking for much back. It depends on the hypnosis, but typically, they don't really need to respond. And if they wanted to get up in the middle of the hypnosis and be like, this is whack. I'm out of here, they could. I've never had that happen, but they could. You have full control over your mind and your body.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:20:31

When we do hypnotherapy, we are getting the person so relaxed that I explain it almost like, let's pretend, you know, your conscious brain is the front of your head. There's a curtain in the middle and then the back is your subconscious. The conscious is kind of what controlled everything that goes through, but the subconscious is what holds the memory and the programming. So, we are getting the person so, so relaxed that that conscious can step to the side, the curtain can come to the side, and we're talking directly to the subconscious. And, really, what we're doing is we're just suggesting to the subconscious, here's who you want to be. Here's who you are now. And that the person is just suggestible because they're so relaxed and taking all of that in.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:21:16

Nice. And so, you walk them through, like, a set of things that help them to relax and get into that state so you can actually access that.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:21:24

Yes. Exactly. We use a relaxation script. Then, usually, I use, like a deepener to get them to even more relaxed. Sometimes people fall asleep, which is totally fine. Like, a lot of people are telling me, well, I fell asleep. I didn't hear anything you said. That's okay. Your subconscious is still taking in that information, and so we get them really, really relaxed, then we start suggesting to them, and that does happen. We start suggesting to them, okay, here's your new story, or if they wanted to be more confident in what that looks like, we start talking to them about that new identity that they're looking to embody.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:21:57

Nice. And is it really specific examples of what it looks like in the future, or is it like telling them things that have happened? Because you said, like, our subconscious doesn't know the timeline. Is it telling your time it does exist or telling you how it's going to look or what exactly does that embody?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:22:11

Yeah. So, we talk about it like it's already happened. So instead of saying you will become a millionaire, we say you are a millionaire. And so, we talk about it as if it's already happened, and then the subconscious also doesn't respond to negative. So, if we say to you, don’t think of a purple elephant. What do you think of?

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:22:30

A purple elephant.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:22:31

Exactly. So, our brain thinks in pictures and so we have to picture it to not picture it, if that makes sense. And so, we don't want to say, I don't have any debt. We want to say I'm debt free. And so, it's really about using very specific language that the subconscious takes in and then also talking to it as if those things have already happened for them. And then the other big thing is that, if I'm doing more of like an identity hypnotherapy, I'm using my client's language because we have different programming. We don't speak the same way. You know, if I word something and it doesn't resonate with them, then their subconscious isn't going to take that in. So, we really want to use language that the client would use.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:23:17

Oh, amazing. So, how long do you typically work with somebody on something like that?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:23:21

Yeah. So, if they're coming in to me and they're saying I just have this, like, very specific thing, usually, I'll do, like, 2 to 3 sessions with them. If they're one of my 1 to 1 coaching clients, usually, they're not coming in for 1 area. They're just feeling very stuck in their life and, like, they want to make a lot of changes. So, somebody like that I usually work with for about 12 weeks.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:23:42

Nice. So, it takes a little bit of time, but have you seen, like, big identity shifts with folks and be able to do this work?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:23:48

Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I have people who are, like, completely different than when you know, before I started working with you, my life is completely different now. And typically, like, you'll see change throughout those 12 weeks, but our subconscious takes some time to kick in. And obviously, you have to do work on your own too. But typically, people come back to me in 5 months, 6 months, a year, and they'll be like, oh my gosh, Kenzie. Like, I used to believe all these things. I used to be stuck in this old job and my life is just completely different now. The way I talk to people, the way I relate to people, my relationship is just completely different.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:24:22

The things can really break open and really shift based on doing that work.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:24:26

Yes. It's like you said earlier, it's like that onion we peel back.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:24:30

Yes. That's amazing. That's so exciting. And so, what do you feel like is your favorite success story and shift that one of your clients has had?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:24:38

Oh, that's a good question. Hard to pick just 1. I would say, not one of my first, but it was kind of at the beginning of me shifting into life coaching. But I had this woman come to me who had a blended family. So, she's married, they had their own kid together, and then she had step kids, and her relationship was really struggling. She wasn't showing up at work the way she wanted to. She wasn't, you know, showing up for her daughter the way she wanted to. She just felt extremely burnt out. She didn't know how to create boundaries. She didn't know how to advocate for herself. She had this really gentle balance or delicate balance between, you know, being a stepmom, that's really hard to parent somebody else's kids. Right? And they were older too. They were teenagers, and so, her life just felt she was like, I'm just not happy. This is just not what I want my life to look like, and so we did a lot of different work with her hypnotherapy, NLP. We taught her to how have self-care again, create boundaries, talked a lot about communicating with her husband about her needs and how he could support her, and her life is just completely different now. They have another kid. Her relationship with her husband with her step kids is so solid. They all travel together. They get along really well, and she feels really fulfilled. She creates time for herself, time to just be her. Right? Not be a mom, not be a stepmom, not be an employee. She gets to be her and have her own things that she loves to do, and so we follow each other on Instagram and check-in sometimes, and her life just, it's completely different and you can see how happy she truly is.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:26:25

Oh, that's so beautiful. That's what we all want is to have that transition from that place to be able to get to the other side. And sometimes we need other tools and other people to kind of help us through that transition. But I love that you mentioned that a big part of her journey was that self-care piece because each of episodes we talk about, we call it our self-maintenance minute because we like to take away the indulgence that sometimes people attach to self-care to understand that this is what you need to be able to show up in life and be authentically you and be able to be present is to be able to take care of yourself. So, what do you do on a regular basis to take care of yourself?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:27:00

Yeah. That's a great question. I'm going to touch on something too if that's okay. A lot of times people think it's especially my clients. 1, they're like, I don't even know what self-care is, but 2, a lot of people feel like they have to spend money for self-care. And self-care doesn't mean you have to go get a massage or get your nails done or go on a trip. It can be really simple things. So, something for me that is self-care is getting outside and taking my shoes off and putting my feet in the grass.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:27:25

So, every day, I try to take my dog outside, walk in the grass barefoot and just be and ground in and take some deep breaths. For me, that is just a good, like, way to, you know, ground in in the middle of the day and be really grateful for the beautiful trees I have outside and my beautiful yard. So, that’s like one of my simplest and favorite ways to have self-care.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:27:51

That is beautiful. Yes. Something very simple that's your way grounding and connecting and doing stuff that gives back to you. That's perfect. Thank you for sharing that. That's very helpful. And then something that we always like to do for our guests, we try to frequently I actually forget it a lot. We don't tell people that.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:28:07

So, if you meet one of my guests, they're like, she didn't give me that, but we offer our guests coloring books. So, we have a set of coloring books that's called the Color of Grit.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:28:16

Oh.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:28:16

Grit Show, Color of Grit. So, one of them is called Vintage Mermaid and Magnificent Ocean, which has like a mermaid ocean theme, and then one of them is You've Got This, which is inspirational quotes. Can we send you one of those as a thank you for being on the show?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:28:29

Of course. I would love that.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:28:31

Which one would you prefer?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:28:33

Oh, I'll take the first one you mentioned.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:28:36

The Vintage Mermaid. Done. We will send that to you. So, I have to make sure I get your address so we can do that. And the other thing we always do for folks that are listening is we want to make sure they have something that they can take away. And I think that you, kind of, along the lines of what you talked about is kind of maybe a tool around visualization that they can actually be able to apply and use right now to kind of help them get to where they want to be. Can you talk more about that?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:28:59

Yes. So, I would say to visualize, we talked a lot about the identity and your story. And so, when we talk about that and I tell people, okay, let's change that identity. Let's change that story. We talk about your highest self or your best self. And so, I always ask people, I'm like, if you were showing up as your highest best self every single day, what would she look like? How would she show up in the world? How would she treat other people? What would she be doing? What would she have? And, like, dream big. It can be anything. It doesn't even have to be realistic. It should be anything.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:29:33

And so, I would say to the listeners, grab out a piece of paper and write down who is she being, what is she doing, and what does she have in her life? And get really specific and really detailed, go into as much detail as you want. Again, it can be anything. And then once you have that all written down, now turn on your favorite music, close your eyes for a minute, and visualize all of that. Our brain loves pictures. Our brain needs a vision to make things happen. And so, when you have that vision of your highest self and you can imagine it in your mind, then that helps you step into that person. And when a situation comes up or an opportunity or, you know, that conflict with someone or talking with someone, you ask yourself, how does my highest self, show up? And then you operate from that vision that you've created for yourself.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:30:25

Oh, that's awesome. So, get out the paper and start visualizing and get that ready and be prepared to know what it is because I think a lot of us don't know for sure what that is. We don't give enough fuel to that fire and to that thought and to figuring that out.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:30:38

Sometimes we get stuck just moving through the day to day. Right? And we take it by moment by moment, but we should have a vision of where we're going because otherwise, we just get caught up in all the random things. And so, when we can have a vision and say, is this going to get me to that vision? Is this going to help me show up as my highest self? Then you stay aligned on your journey.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:30:58

Yes. I love that. That's so helpful to get us aligned, to get us on that direction. So, if folks are wanting to connect with you because I got so much out of this conversation, where is the best place to find you, Kenzie?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:31:08

Yes. So, I'm always on Instagram. You can find me kenzgroh, KENZGROH. And otherwise, you can check out my website kenzgrohcoaching.com.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:31:18

Wonderful. And then you also have a tool that folks can get. Is that right?

Kenzie Groh [: 00:31:22

Yes. So, I have a course called Unstuck Mindset Accelerator and it is really everything that I do with my clients put into a program, an 8-week program, that you can take yourself through. And there's different hypnoses in there, meditations, that highest self-vision that I talked about, you can have, there are all the steps for that. There's a hypnosis for it in there, and it's really all of the things and in the order that I wish I had when I was going through my journey, and so I wanted to make it really accessible for people, and so if you're starting to get into this work, starting to get into meditation, hypnosis, mindset work, changing your limiting beliefs, this is perfect for you.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:32:05

Oh, that's amazing. Well, we will have the link for that in the show notes as well as the links to find you on Instagram and your website. So, thank you so much for being here, Kenzie. I feel like there was so much value, and people are going to get a lot out of what you were able to share today.

Kenzie Groh [: 00:32:17

Thank you for having me.

Shawna Rodrigues [: 00:32:19

Thank you for joining us today. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Be sure to jump on over to Instagram and follow us at The.Grit.Show. And if you aren't already following Authentic Connections Podcast Network at 37by27, you should definitely be doing that as well. Don't forget. You are the only one of you that this world has got, and that means something. I'll be here next Tuesday. I hope you are too.